Since the ongoing crisis in the Middle East escalated to a new level last October, many artists have mobilized to use their platforms in a variety of ways, including participating in the Boycott, Divestment, and Sanctions (BDS) movement and cultural boycotts of Israel. Some, though, have doubts about the effectiveness of such moves, like Nick Cave, who has pushed back against calls for such boycotts in a new interview.
Speaking with Nick Gillespie for an episode of The Reason Interview, Cave explained that while he considers himself “no friend of the government of Israel,” he finds it difficult to accept the idea of “using my music to punish ordinary people because of the acts of their government.”
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Continuing, he denied taking any shame from boycott-supporting artists like Roger Waters and Brian Eno too personally (“These are obviously larger issues, it’s not about me”), but he highlighted Waters — a particularly outspoken supporter of BDS — as acting in a way that he feels is “deeply damaging to the boycott movement.”
As Cave sees it, the primary problem with the idea of a cultural boycott is “it doesn’t even work” in the way they are usually intended. “I mean, it’s clearly not working in Israel at the moment,” he said. “In my view, it sort of emboldens the worst aspects of the current government. They exploit this isolationist thing, like ‘The whole world is against us. No one will come and play.’ It’s used to further their nefarious agendas, while, at the same time, punishes ordinary fans.”
Cave ended his comments saying “It’s awful what’s going on over there though, but I just don’t feel comfortable with that.” Listen to his interview with Gillespie below.
Cave’s appearance on The Reason Interview comes in support of his album with the Bad Seeds, Wild God, which arrives today. Up next, the band will hit the road for a number of European tour dates this fall. Get tickets here.